Demi Moore opens up about her struggles with ex-husband Ashton Kutcher; Demi Lovato talks about accepting her body, new music, and facing her own reflection.
Demi Moore is opening up about her struggles with ex-husband Ashton Kutcher and the effects their relationship had on her three daughters.
“The addiction and the co-dependency… like my addiction to Ashton — that was probably almost more devastating because it took me seriously away emotionally,” Moore, 56, said on Monday’s Red Table Talk on Facebook Watch.
Sitting down with hosts Jada Pinkett Smith, Willow Smith and Adrienne Banfield-Norris, the actress and two of her three daughters: Rumer and Tallulah Willis, spoke about her spiral into addiction after almost 20 years of sobriety.
Tallulah, 25, spoke about the repercussions her mother’s addiction had on her after her older sisters, Rumer, 31, and Scout, 28, moved out.
“Watching the behavior with Ashton, those years, because everyone had left the house and it was just me living there. I felt very forgotten and I feel like I developed and nurtured a narrative where she didn’t love me and I truly believed it,” Tallulah said. “I know that she does, 100 percent but in that moment you’re hurt.”
Tallulah was 9 years old when Moore relapsed. Moore described the moment she fell back into addictive habits while on a trip with Kutcher, 41. The two were married for eight years before they divorced in 2013.
“Ashton said, ‘I don’t know if alcoholism’s a thing. I think it’s about moderation,’” Moore recalled. “If I had stayed close to working my program… I, of course, lived the majority of my adult life sober. I was great sober.”
When Willow asked what she thought made her quit sobriety, Moore said, “I wanted to be that girl.”
“I made my own story up, that he wanted somebody that he could have wine with that he could do stuff [with]. He’s not the cause of why I opened that door up,” she continued. “I wanted to be something other than who I am. And I gave my power away.”
Demi Lovato attended the 2019 Teen Vogue Summit at Goya Studios in Los Angeles to give her first interview since she suffered a near-fatal overdose in July 2018. After a year of introspection, the “Tell Me You Love Me” singer has set out on a road to confidence, happiness, and sobriety, having accomplished as much by remaining clean every step of the way. Now, in this new sit-down, the pop star talks about accepting her body, new music, and facing her own reflection.
Scroll down for all the highlights from Lovato’s first interview in over a year below.
On body positivity: “We hear the term body positivity all the time. To be honest, I don’t always feel positive about my body. Sometimes I do not like what I see. I don’t sit there and dwell on it. I also don’t lie to myself. I used to look in the mirror if I was having a bad body image day and say ‘I love my body, you’re beautifully and wonderfully made.’ But I didn’t believe it. I don’t have to lie to myself and tell myself I have an amazing body. All I have to say is ‘I’m healthy.’ In that statement, I express gratitude. I am grateful for my strength and things I can do with my body. I am saying I’m healthy and I accept the way my body is today without changing anything.”
On living for herself: “Over the past five years I’ve learned life is not worth living unless you’re living for yourself. If you’re trying to be someone you’re not, or you’re trying to please other people, it’s not going to work out in the long run,” she said. “If you want to dye your hair purple, dye your hair purple. If you want to love someone of the same sex, love someone of the same sex. Be yourself and don’t be afraid of what people think.”
On dealing with cyber bullies: “What people don’t realize is I’m an extremely sensitive person. When someone says something mean about me or makes a meme making fun of me, I have a good sense of humor. But when it’s a very serious subject it can be hurtful. … I’m so tired of pretending I’m not human. When you say stuff, it affects me. I try not to look, but I see it.”
On releasing new music: “I have new music coming. I didn’t say when — now I’m just teasing you. It’s important to remember that I am so cautious this time around of jumping back into things. I’ve really decided to take my time with things. When the time is right, I will put it out there. I am dying to release new music … but everything in due time.”
On facing herself in the mirror: “What I see in the mirror [is] someone that’s overcome a lot. I’ve been through a lot and I genuinely see a fighter. I don’t see a championship winner, but I see a fighter and someone who is going to continue to fight no matter what is thrown their way. I have a lot of confidence now because I have said the things I believe in. … That’s what I see when I look in the mirror — a strong woman.”